J Meister
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I've seen the "Dating Insider" ads and links to various "Speed Seduction" sites. These techniques appear to rely on the power of suggestion and other mind games. This might work great for you single guys and philanderers; however, those of us who are married/monogamous have no need to "pick up" the girl, we only want to "score" more often. What I'm looking for is some techniques to get the ol' wife in the mood for action, more often. These days, this seems nearly impossible with the demands of two professional careers, kids, etc. Anybody have any ideas on how to do this without resorting to drugs and alcohol? Can these techniques be adapted to married/committed relationships?
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soyelmocano |
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Can't really help you, but if you find anything, be sure to post it. A lot of us might be able to use some help.
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I usually just wave my American Express card in front of my wife's face. Works every time!
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SS by Ross Jeffries has a lot about persuasion and manipulation. Once you learn about how to talk and what to say you can modify the 'patterns' as they are called into your own personal situation. There are several patterns used to get the girl in the mood, and the idea is as you get better you will be able to make them up on the fly.
I wouldnt pay for anything though. If you look hard enough you will find stuff for free on the net. Go to www.pickupguide.com go right to the bottom and there is links to free sites of interest. Then click on 'tonys layguide free version' or something like that and download it to your hard drive if you can. A Speed Seduction book is also availabe for free near to the layguide link. Good luck SS4 |
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Unregistered(d) |
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SS4Jelq:
Thanks for the link. I read through a fair amount of the material. I still think its a challenge to apply these techniques to an established marriage relationship without sending the wife's bullshit meter over the redline! Having said that, some of the techniques using physical touch seem quite promising. Also, the techniques where you take her mind to another place could be useful in removing stress and preoccupation with the cares of daily life. I think it will take some practice and work to develop patterns that work in a marriage situation, since the interest is more long-term than short-term and a wife knows you so well (i.e. hard to fool the bullshit detector, especially after 15 years of marriage). Anyone else tried applying these techniques in their marriage? I'd love to hear examples/stories/results. J Meister
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Hey Meister,
I am on 2 years of trying to get my wife back in the saddle. I am seriously thinking of leaving her (I am past anger I think) The work I did to push our sex life into more than once every two months (maybe) put her in a very negative state which translated into no sex. Lots of mental anquish and total frustration on my part. PE has been great, but it stimulated my libido to the point of practically begging. Well. now there is the male ego and dignity thing all enflamed. Currently sleeping seperately and barely talking. She is unresponsive, uncommunicative, and yet all cheery in the morning . Menapause??? 20 years of marriage and we both are youthful. I have read about 30 books on the subject of relations and marriage and I seem to be the "female" in this situation in my need to be intimate. However, I bet I am not alone. Men ussually do not admit the above. Sorry I dumped. |
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Bib |
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vivace,
The hormone thing could be a big factor. A lot of stuff changes during this period. But did you ever see the posts a long time ago with Sean Jacobs about cutting her off? Many times, this is just a power thing. Be really nice in all things except ignore her completely about sex. Give her back rubs, take her out, do other stuff for her. But no sex. Work on your PE during this time. Take care of yourself. Forget about sex with her. After a while, she will drop hints, maybe make some advances. This is a trick. Ignore all of it because she just wants you back on the hook. Continue on, being very nice. After you have rebuffed her a few times, she will probably want to 'talk' about it. Tell her you understand what she is going through and don't want her to do anything she does not want to do. Even tell her you can take care of yourself. Not a problem. Soon, she will really want to have sex. She will talk you into it. This is also a ploy. Make it kind of hard but give in. Then, forget about sex again. She will drop hints etc., but the more you hold out, the more you will get later. I NEVER ask for sex anymore. Ever. It simply comes to me like clockwork, four or five times per week. Of course, the added equipment does not hurt either. Bigger |
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bib/vivace
Thats an interesting idea, I may try that with my girlfriend. I feel in a similar way to you, vivace, although she is not my wife, and we have been seeing each other for less than a year. We spend lots of time together and she stays over at my place often. At first she was very horny but has lost it almost completely now. We have never had sex, but im talking about the other stuff. That annoys me too, she had one night stands and threesomes and shit like that but wont have sex with me even though she claims to like me a lot. It might not sound like much but we get into bed and she rolls over and ignores me many things go though my head, like I think she doesent like me in that way, or im just so bad at it she doesent want to (+ the size thing of course). I know sex isnt everything but I want us to have a good sex life, I hear my friends talk about how horny their girls are and im thinking is she even alive. Im sorry if that makes no sense I was just blurting really. Thanks for reading. SS4 |
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Hugeness |
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hey Bigger, if I recall correctly, Sean got divorced, so I don't know if his plan is a good one. I tried it before, but didn't have the ability to hold out if sex was offerred... LOL! Once a horn dog, always a horn dog.
SS4, sorry to say, but you need a new girl. Have one of your friends hook you up with their girlfriend's friend. If your girl is not interested in sex now, the case is lost. Move on!!! |
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Bib |
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Huge,
You are right, Sean got divorced. But he had a lot of other problems besides the sex. The ignore thing was what I recommended to him to try for more sex, and he said it worked to an extent. It is one of those things in life that take a lot of self control. I messed up a couple times and just gave in. But, after a while I was able to control it to the point where eventually, I was almost raped. Great! Women have urges just like guys. Maybe not as often. But just as for guys, withholding something makes her want it more. All kinds of thoughts go through her mind. Is she no longer attractive? Has she screwed up and driven you off sex completely? Even, are you getting some on the side? Why can't she make you beg anymore? You want sex? Be a challenge. Bigger |
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Hugeness |
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Bigger,
I hear you man... and after I beg for it one more time tonight, I am going to try what you said. LOL! We shall see... let the games begin! |
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Great responses, guys. Hugeness and Vivace, I hear you big time. I feel like I'm always initiating things. Having a constantly-ready, PE-enhanced and stimulated dick does not help matters for me. Last weekend, my wife got mad at me and purposely withheld what she said would have been "great sex" just to punish me. Pissed me off royally. I'm still angry about it. She seems to have a lot of stress in her life these days--work, just turned 40, etc., etc. I'm lucky to get half-hearted sex once a month. It's been months since we had really great sex where she was ripping off orgasm after orgasm. I just don't understand.
BIB, I may try your strategy. However, once she is in the mood, I hate to piss away the opportunity by acting disinterested for fear that I won't be given another chance. (Yes, I am desperate.) I think that "Phallic Superiority" definitely helps you in your situation. Many women seem to love to submit to and worship huge cocks. J Meister
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Bib |
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JM,
I will not deny that sex is much much better with the larger equipment. And it increased in enjoyment and numbers as it got bigger. But I started the ignoring sex thing before PE. Eight to ten years ago. I was at the once or twice a month stage also. A shrink friend of mine suggested trying it. It is really hard to do at first. Then, it kind of becomes a challenge. It only took a month or two in my situation (maybe less). But that is the only one I know about. It may take longer for you or may not work. The key is to be extremely nice in all other things. Coffee in bed, backrubs, all the honeydos done. Just conciously ignore anything sexual. It really drives them crazy. They will want to @#%$ you just to see whats up. When you decline, they cannot stand it. Then you become a challenge to them. It's great. Then after you finally relent once, this is hard, go back to the ignoring thing. Bigger |
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HughJorgan8 |
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Listen to Bib...women are mental, especially when you're marries to them...there is a tape set I bought a long time ago called "light her fire" by Ellen Kreidman, where she explains the differences between the sexes...women need to be turned on mentally, men physically...turn her on mentally, and you have all the sex you can handle...
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growing3 |
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Guys,
Bib's right on this one, I've had a live in girlfriend for about 3 years now. About 4 months ago she shut me down, and I had to resort to the ignore sex routine for awhile. Done it with her before and it works like a charm. I get questions and hints all the time. "Is there something wrong?" "It's been over a month you know..." "The kids won't be home on Saturday so...." (other stuff just happened to keep me too busy on Saturday) Now she just recently bought herself a membership to the gym and decided to get me one too. As soon as she works out for a few days I'll give it up. That will keep her working out...life is so fun sometimes. The hardest thing was to shut her down for the first month that I tried it, 'cause I was dieing for sex too. Worked then and it's working now, just need some discipline. Growing |
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BIB, etc.,
Thanks. She just started to hint that Friday's might be our sex day--if your a good boy (pisses me off). This was done with great trepidation on her part. Almost like a charity F---. A given is I know she loves me. SHe states that I am pestering her and want sex all the time...yep. The thought that it is not pleasure for her but a duty turns me off, but I still take it when I can get it. I think your advise is totally correct. Seeing as I have been on this terror trip for two years, I will absolutely give it a go. THe key of being very nice appeals to me, but it will be very difficult. I think with the kids and her other business interests, she may not notice my ploy for months. Hell, I have stamina and it is worth a try. I'll let you'all know. BIB, Thanks for your guidance, I think you are right on this one. |
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Guys,
I amy be whippersnapper her, and my girl is a borderline nymph so my opinion may not count... but I've always found that flattering, making a women feel sexy, pretty, hot, wanted, desired, etc makes them more likely to jump in bed. Also making the sexually experience all about them helps to want it more in the future. |
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Bib |
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Vivace,
Man I hope you have not done anything yet. I just read your last post. I remember the planning thing. She just might work you into her schedule. That sucks. You cannot be mad about anything. No false fronts. Remember what the goal is: frequent sex. You have to truly be nice in everything. Be genuinely helpful. Now, on Friday, do not say a word about sex in any way, shape or form. Be nice all day. Do a couple of special things for her. Something a little unusual. If she says come and get it, just say "no, not tonight, I just don't feel like it". Do not give in. Now she may not try to get in depth the first time you do this. But within say the first five or six times, she will want to 'talk' about the situation. When she says this. Be evasive at first. Then, tell her you "do not wish for her to do something she does not want to do." Remember that line. Then, she will mew a little, and you say, "I'm sorry, but the fact that you don't seem to enjoy it really turns ME off. I just CAN'T do it tonight. Maybe sometime later". Then offer to rub her feet or back or snuggle with her. Make sure when you tell her this, you are a little hesitant. Like it hurts you to say it. This will kill her. If she ever wants to know why you are being sooo nice, tell her it is because you love her and want her to feel good. Then she will want to talk about it some. Stick to the lines above, period. These lines will run through her head day and night. She will not be able to forget them. Interrupt her at some point and offer to get her something to drink. Change the subject if you can. The next time she approaches you after this, you will notice a new nighty, probably a teddy. Maybe candles where there were no candles before. The bed may be a little different. Prepare to be seduced. If you can resist this time, you may have it made. Also, if you resist this time or the next, she may cry a little. Hug her. Whatever you do, no boners. Gives you away. That will do for a start. Let us know what happens. Bigger |
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Bib |
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V,
One other thing. If she says she is worried about you getting blue balls or something. Tell her it is ok, you take care of it on your own. Also, if this does not wake her up, she probably has a medical problem. Hormonal imbalance or something. But I doubt it. Bigger |
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Bib |
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@#%$ I keep forgeting stuff.
After you give in the first time and let her have it, she may go back to the same old attitude. If this happens you will really have to shut it down. Nothing. Then, when she starts again and seduces you, just say, "look, I cannot do this anymore. One time per month only hurts me. It does not even feel good because of the built up tension." ***At this point, if you can sniffle a little, it really works. Then say, "unless we can find a way to do it more often, I need to just take care of myself." **Another sniffle maybe. Then, "I love you, but you need to respect my feelings on this and not do this to me anymore.". This is the death blow. If you can pull it off, she will @#%$ you every day for two months just to try to feel better about herself and what she has done to you. Bigger |
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dino775 |
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THE HAND! RIGHT OR LEFT IF YOUR DICK IS BIG ENOUGH USE BOTH. YOU DONT HAVE TO CUDDLE IT OR TALK TO IT OR BUY IT ANYTHING YOU ALSO DON'T HAVE TO LICK IT FOR A HALF HOUR FIRST IT WILL EVEN GET YOU A BEER when your done!
"The power of the pusssy, don't it f-ing suck" No but really if you guys want the best fuuck of your life from your wife get her good and worked up with your mouth than enter her missionary style grab both her wrist and gently hold them down to the bed bury your coock as deep as you can nice and easy. Tell her how much you love her and whisper in her ear ask her if she likes what your doing to her"remember hold on to her wrist tight!" when she answers yes that she likes what your doing tell her SO DOES YOUR SISTER! and than hang on for the ride of your life she will be bucking like a wild bronco trying to get you off. :0] Dino |
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